In this interview with nutritionist Samantha Gladish, Dr. Carrie Jones gives a comprehensive insight into the functions, metabolisms and relationships of the various hormones. Characteristics of the DUTCH test are also covered in detail.

Topics Discussed in this Episode:

  • What is the DUTCH Test?
  • What happens when your hormones go down a bad pathway and what can you do about it?
  • How long after implementing some strategies to address your hormones can you do a re-test?
  • Does blood testing serve a purpose?
  • When is the right time in your cycle to test your hormones?
  • What is cycle mapping and what can you learn from it regarding your hormones?
  • Why is it important that your liver metabolizes your hormones?
  • What is the difference between cortisol and cortisone?
  • What does it mean when you have very low levels of free cortisol and high levels of metabolized cortisol and vice versa?

Key Takeaways:

  • DUTCH stands for Dry Urine Test for Comprehensive Hormones, a test that shows hormone imbalances as well as hormone metabolites, which allows you to become proactive with your hormonal health.
  • Women can have a hormonal imbalance at any age; and men can have a hormonal imbalance, too.
  • More recently, the DUTCH Tests have been updated to include nutritional organic acids and the neurotransmitter metabolites.
  • The cortisol awakening response is where your cortisol is supposed to shoot up in the first 30 to 60 minutes of when you wake up. And if you don’t get it right, if it stays low or if it shoots up too high, then you’re not going to get anything else right.

Action Steps:

  • Consider doing a DUTCH Test.
  • Take the necessary steps to balance your hormones, test, don’t guess!

Dr. Carrie Jones said:

“Your genes, they dictate a lot, but there’s a lot you can do to change it. And just because you have the mutation, it doesn’t mean everything is 100%… Just because you have the mutation, it’s entirely possible other things have made up for it.”

“Hormones are a luxury but stress is not. The body is designed to deal with fight or flight, and whether or not you ovulate has no bearing on you living. You can not ovulate for the rest of your life and you will still live, but if don’t have cortisol, you will die.”

Samantha said:

“Your genes load the gun but your lifestyle pulls the trigger.”


Dr Carrie Jones, ND, MPH, Medical Director for Precision Analytical

Dr. Carrie Jones’ passion and expertise lies in the areas of hormonal, adrenal, and thyroid health. She recognises that imbalance can occur at any age and believes it is important to look at the big picture such as the appropriate use of lab testing. Dr. Jones graduated from the National University of Natural Medicine (NUNM) in Portland, Oregon then went on to complete her residency in women’s health, endocrinology and hormones. Later she graduated from Grand Canyon University’s Master of Public Health program with a goal of doing more international work and health empowerment. Dr. Jones is an adjunct professor at NUNM and regularly consults, lectures, and writes on the topic of hormones, thyroid, adrenals, autoimmune and more.

As the Medical Director for Precision Analytical, Inc., her goals are to provide ongoing cutting edge integrative clinical education to the large network of providers paving the way of healthcare with functional medicine.